It’s no surprise that President Barack Obama gets asked about UFOs and aliens from time to time. But in a recent interview with GQ, it was the President who brought up these topics.

On Monday, November 17, GQ published an interview with Obama conducted by on-air sports personality Bill Simmons. During the interview, Simmons asks, “Have you ever said, ‘Give me the JFK-assassination files, I want to read them. Give me all the secret stuff’?” The President responds:

I gotta tell you, it’s a little disappointing. People always ask me about Roswell and the aliens and UFOs, and it turns out the stuff going on that’s top secret isn’t nearly as exciting as you expect. In this day and age, it’s not as top secret as you’d think.

Unfortunately, there is no follow up or further elaboration on these comments in the GQ interview.

Jimmy Kimmel asked Obama about UFOs and Area 51 back in March of 2015. In that interview, the President made it clear that he is unable to disclose any information about aliens because they “exercise strict control over us.”

Of course, President Obama was joking. Or was he?

Ben Hansen, former FBI special agent and host of Syfy’s Fact or Faked: Paranormal Files analyzed Obama’s interview with Kimmel and concluded that the President was being truthful when he said, “I can’t reveal anything,” which shouldn’t be surprising. Naturally, the President of the United States is going to have knowledge related to top secret issues, which he cannot divulge to the public.

But, then again, if UFOs aren’t “as top secret as you’d think,” then what’s preventing the President from openly discussing the topic?